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Building a Church That Feels Like Home
"Doing Church as a Family" advocates for a transformative approach to church life, emphasizing the importance of fostering a family-based model rather than adhering to the traditional "Fantasy Church" or "Factory Church" paradigms.
This episode delves into the concept of spiritual parenting, focusing on the need to develop mature adults in faith rather than merely attracting new converts. With insights from Dr. Michael Brodeur's work, listeners will learn how to cultivate a culture characterized by intimacy, integrity, and intentionality within their church communities.
Practical strategies such as establishing small groups and promoting intergenerational partnerships are discussed, aiming to create a supportive environment that nurtures genuine connections and leadership succession.
Ultimately, the goal is to build a thriving church family that reflects God's love and purpose, enabling members to grow spiritually and contribute meaningfully to their community.
Kingdom Encounter with Glenn Bleakney is a variety show consisting of teaching, discourses, and interviews on all things Kingdom. This is a season of reformation and revival. The Church must build on the foundations of the apostles and prophets preaching and teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom in the demonstration of the Spirit's power to all nations.
Takeaways:
- The podcast emphasizes the importance of transforming churches into family-like communities for deeper connections.
- Fantasy and factory churches often prioritize appearance and structure over genuine relationships and impact.
- Spiritual parenting is essential for developing mature adults in faith rather than merely attracting converts.
- Creating small groups fosters intimacy and connection, contributing to a stronger church family atmosphere.
- Embracing values such as integrity, intentionality, and interdependence is crucial for healthy church dynamics.
- Service opportunities can empower individuals to contribute their unique gifts, enhancing community engagement.
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Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Kingdom Reformation
Transcript
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Speaker B:Hey, everybody, and welcome to the deep Dive.
Speaker B:You know, we get tons of requests to do deep dives in all sorts of topics, but there's this one that just keeps coming up over and over again, and it's really clear that it's something that a lot of you are really thinking about, and that is how to make church.
Speaker B:Well, how to make church feel more.
Speaker B:More like a family and less like, you know, less like an institution.
Speaker B:So guess what?
Speaker B:That's exactly what this deep dive is going to be all about.
Speaker C:It really is a universal kind of longing, isn't it?
Speaker C:That desire to have, like, authentic connection and to find a place where we really belong.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:It's like finding that sense of belonging, but it goes even beyond that.
Speaker B:It's also about people.
Speaker B:You know, it's about finding your purpose and how to grow and how to grow within this supportive community.
Speaker B:And that's where Dr.
Speaker B:Michael Brodeur's work really comes in.
Speaker B:We're going to be diving into his ebook.
Speaker B:It's called Doing Church as a Family.
Speaker B:And we're going to see if his insights kind of resonate with you.
Speaker C:Yeah, Bruder doesn't really sugarcoat things.
Speaker C:He starts by painting a pretty stark picture of the current state of the church.
Speaker C:And he actually identifies three types of churches.
Speaker C:There's fantasy church, there's factory church, and then there's the ideal, which is the family church.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's kind of break these down a little bit.
Speaker B:What exactly do we mean when we say fantasy church?
Speaker C:Well, think of it like a church that prioritizes appearances over actual impact.
Speaker C:You know, it's all about putting on this really good show, you know, with these really impressive services and these programs.
Speaker C:But the question is, are lives actually being transformed by it?
Speaker B:So it's like they're focusing more on the outward form rather than the inward substance.
Speaker C:Yeah, precisely.
Speaker C:And Broder asks a pretty pointed question here.
Speaker C:He says, if your church closed, would anyone outside your members even notice?
Speaker C:Ouch.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But it's a good question to ask.
Speaker C:It challenges us to consider what kind of impact are we really having on our communities.
Speaker B:That is a very powerful question to ask.
Speaker B:And I think if we're all honest with ourselves, a lot of us would have to say that our churches maybe.
Speaker B:Maybe they aren't making as much of a difference as we'd like to believe.
Speaker C:It is a humbling thought, for sure, but it's also a really good opportunity for growth.
Speaker C:And that's kind of where this idea of factory church comes in.
Speaker C:It's almost like a reaction to the things that fantasy church is missing and attempt to really systematize spiritual growth.
Speaker B:Okay, so it's about fixing the problem by using programs and structures.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:But the problem that Berdeur brings up is that this can lead to these rigid systems, and they end up feeling really impersonal, and they can stifle genuine spiritual connection.
Speaker B:It's like they're trying to manufacture disciples instead of nurturing them.
Speaker C:That's a great way to put it.
Speaker C:You know, he even shares his own personal experience with this.
Speaker C:He was trying to implement a cell church model, but it ended up feeling more mechanical than organic.
Speaker B:So people were just kind of going through the motions and just checking off boxes, but they weren't really connecting on a deeper level.
Speaker B:So where does that leave us?
Speaker B:What's the alternative?
Speaker B:Is family church just this, like, utopian ideal, or is it something that we can actually strive for in the real world?
Speaker C:That's the big question, and that's what I think a lot of people are looking for in this deep dive.
Speaker C:Brodura doesn't just present family church as this, like, warm and fuzzy concept.
Speaker C:He really gets into, you know, the details, the nitty gritty details about what it takes to create a church that really feels like a family.
Speaker B:And he's not just relying on anecdotal evidence or personal opinions.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He's going into the theological foundations of this whole idea.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:He makes the argument that family isn't just this nice sentiment.
Speaker C:It's actually God's core methodology.
Speaker C:It's woven into the fabric of creation, of redemption, and of restoration.
Speaker B:Hold on.
Speaker B:Unpack that a little bit more for me.
Speaker B:How does family fit into God's bigger plan?
Speaker C:Okay, well, think about it this way.
Speaker C:From the very beginning, God created us to be in relationships, to have connection.
Speaker C:He made us in his image.
Speaker C:And God exists in this perfect relationship of love within the trinity.
Speaker C:So family is, in a sense, a reflection of that divine love.
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker B:So it's not about just replicating a human family structure.
Speaker B:It's about tapping into something that goes way deeper, something that's reflecting the very nature of God.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And if we look throughout the Bible, we see this theme of family running throughout from Abraham's lineage, who God chose to bless the world, to Jesus calling his disciples his family.
Speaker C:This concept of family is so central to God's plan.
Speaker B:That is fascinating.
Speaker B:It makes me wonder, what does a healthy spiritual parent look like in this context?
Speaker B:If we're trying to get away from that institutional model of church and Embrace this idea of church as family.
Speaker B:We need to understand what that actually looks like in practice.
Speaker C:That's a great question.
Speaker C:And Berdeur lays out a roadmap for us.
Speaker C:He identifies five key gifts that spiritual parents or those who are further along in their spiritual journey should be imparting to other people to help them grow their identity, community, maturity, responsibility, and destiny.
Speaker B:Five gifts.
Speaker B:That's a lot to unpack.
Speaker B:I think for those of us who've always been looking for that family feeling in church, understanding those five gifts is absolutely crucial.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:And you know, if you're interested in really going deep into this whole concept of doing church As a family, Dr.
Speaker C:Brodeur's book is an incredible resource.
Speaker B:Oh, are you about to give us a little secret here?
Speaker B:Tell me more.
Speaker C:Well, I was going to say there's actually a way that you can get a free PDF copy of this ebook.
Speaker B:Okay, now you have to tell me more.
Speaker B:I know our listeners are going to love this.
Speaker C:All you have to do is become a paid subscriber to Kingdom Reformation with Glenn Blakeney.
Speaker C:It's a fantastic platform with tons of resources for anyone looking to will reform their understanding of church and faith.
Speaker B:I've heard great things about Kingdom Reformation, so you sign up and you get a free book.
Speaker B:That's a pretty good deal.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:And I really think Britter's book, especially for those of you out there who are looking for a deeper sense of family in your church experience, it's really worth the read.
Speaker B:I totally agree.
Speaker B:Now, before we go too far down that road, let's get back to those five gifts for a minute.
Speaker B:I'm really intrigued by this whole idea of imparting identity.
Speaker B:What does that look like when you try to put it into practice?
Speaker B:How do we actually help people discover their true identity in this context of church's family?
Speaker C:That's a great question.
Speaker C:And that's a great place to pick up in part two of our Deep Dive.
Speaker C:It's all about creating an environment where people feel seen and valued and loved for who they are, not for what they do or don't do.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's about moving away from that performance based mentality that we see in those fantasy churches.
Speaker B:It's about saying you are loved and accepted for who you are and you have something unique and valuable to contribute to this family.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker C:We're going to go through all five of these gifts and talk about how they can help build a thriving church family.
Speaker C:When we come back don't go anywhere.
Speaker B:We'll be right back with part two.
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Speaker C:Welcome back to the Deep Dive.
Speaker C:We're continuing our exploration of Dr.
Speaker C:Michael Broder's vision for doing church as a family with a focus on how to make your church feel more like a family than an institution.
Speaker C:Before the break, we were getting ready to unpack these five gifts that spiritual parents, or, you know, those further along in their spiritual journey should impart to help others grow.
Speaker B:Yes, we left off on this really interesting idea of imparting identity.
Speaker B:So let's dig into that a little bit.
Speaker B:What does that look like in the context of a church that really feels like a family?
Speaker C:Well, imagine going to a church where, where from the moment you walk in, you feel seen and valued for who you are, not for what you can do or for what you believe.
Speaker B:That's so different from what so many of us have experienced, isn't it?
Speaker B:You know, there's this pressure to conform, to fit into a certain mold and have all the right answers.
Speaker C:And that's the opposite of what Brodeur is talking about.
Speaker C:He's saying that true spiritual parenting, it starts with affirming people's God given identity, helping them understand their worth and that they belong.
Speaker B:So it's about creating a sense of security and acceptance, letting people know that they're loved unconditionally, no matter their flaws or their struggle.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's about creating this space where people can just be themselves without being afraid of being judged or rejected.
Speaker C:It's about helping them to discover who they are in Christ and what their gifts are.
Speaker C:And what they're called to do, that.
Speaker B:Really lines up with what we're talking about, doesn't it?
Speaker B:This longing to have church feel more like family.
Speaker B:It's about that sense of belonging, you know, knowing that you're accepted and loved for who you are.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And when people have that secure foundation of identity, they're free to grow and mature without feeling like they have to perform or prove themselves.
Speaker B:Which takes us to the next gift community.
Speaker B:What does a genuine community look like in a family church?
Speaker C:Think of it as a network of relationships where people truly care for each other and support one another, where they celebrate victories together and walk alongside each other when things are hard.
Speaker B:So it's more than just surface level chit chat and, you know, saying hi on Sunday mornings.
Speaker B:It's about building real, authentic connections.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's about having those spaces where people can be vulnerable, share their struggles, and know that the people around them will be there to empathize with them and encourage them not to judge them or give them empty platitudes.
Speaker B:This reminds me of something that Brodeur said about raising adults in the faith.
Speaker B:You know, it's not about keeping people in a state of perpetual childhood, dependent on the church for everything.
Speaker B:It's about giving them the tools to stand on their own two feet, to become mature and responsible members of this community.
Speaker C:That's a great point.
Speaker C:And that's really where the gifts of maturity and responsibility come in.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's talk about maturity then.
Speaker B:How do we help people in a church family become more spiritually mature?
Speaker C:Well, it starts with modeling that maturity.
Speaker C:The church leaders and those who are further along in their journey need to show what it means to live a life that's grounded in God's word, characterized by integrity, humility, and love.
Speaker B:So they have to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It's about showing people what it means to follow Jesus, not just talking about it.
Speaker C:And it's about creating those opportunities for people to grow in their knowledge of the Bible, to develop their spiritual gifts, and to figure out how to live out their faith every day.
Speaker B:So it's not about spoon feeding people information or making them feel like they always have to be in Bible study.
Speaker B:It's about empowering them to be lifelong learners to figure out for themselves how rich and deep their faith can really be.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And, you know, as people mature, they naturally start to want to take on more responsibility, and they want to use their gifts and talents to contribute to their community.
Speaker B:And that's where the gift of Responsibility fits in.
Speaker B:How do we help people discover and embrace the role that they can play in the church family?
Speaker C:Well, it starts by understanding that everyone has something to offer.
Speaker C:We all have those unique gifts and passions that God has given us to use to serve others and to build up the body of Christ.
Speaker B:So it's not about telling people what to do or, you know, creating this hierarchy of who's more important.
Speaker B:It's about helping people to see where their passions and gifts are and how those can meet the needs of the community.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's about creating a culture where everyone feels valued and empowered to contribute, where serving others isn't seen as a chore, but as a privilege and a joy.
Speaker B:This makes me think about those churches that are really program driven, where people are always being recruited to fill a certain spot or meet some kind of quota.
Speaker B:That doesn't really sound like a family, does it?
Speaker C:Not really.
Speaker C:That's why Brodeur really emphasizes getting away from that factory model of church and moving towards this more organic approach where people are drawn to serve out of love and because they genuinely want to help.
Speaker B:So it's about creating a culture of invitation, not obligation.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It's about fostering the sense of ownership and belonging where people really feel like they're part of the mission of the church and they're excited to play a role in it.
Speaker B:And speaking of mission, we can't talk about doing church as a family without talking about that fifth gift, destiny.
Speaker B:This is a big one, isn't it?
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:And I think it's the one that a lot of people misunderstand.
Speaker C:Too often people just think destiny means getting saved and then going to heaven when you die.
Speaker B:But there's so much more to it than that.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Brodeur argues that our destiny is connected to God's overall plan for humanity, his desire to redeem and restore all of creation.
Speaker B:Oh, it's bigger than just me and my personal salvation.
Speaker B:I'm part of something much bigger, something that lasts longer than my lifetime.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker C:And that's why it's so important to help people figure out their own unique calling, to see how their gifts and passions connect with what God has planned for their lives.
Speaker B:It sounds like a journey, not like the destination you arrive at overnight.
Speaker B:How do we help people on this journey?
Speaker C:It starts with mentoring, walking alongside someone, helping them to hear God's voice, see their strengths, and explore the possibilities that are out there.
Speaker B:So it's like being a guide and encouraging them, but also giving them the space to make their own choices to stumble and learn as they go.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's about empowering people to take ownership of their faith and to step into their God given destiny with confidence and joy.
Speaker B:This makes me think about that call to action we talked about earlier.
Speaker B:You know, if anyone is feeling inspired by all of this and wants to learn more about Brodora's work, there's a way you can get a free copy of his book.
Speaker C:Yes, if you become a paid subscriber to Kingdom Reformation with Glenn Blakeney, you'll get a free PDF copy of Doing Church as a Family.
Speaker C:It's a really great resource, full of practical insights and inspiring stories.
Speaker B:Definitely worth checking out.
Speaker B:Now, before we wrap up this part of our deep dive, I want to bring up something that I've been thinking about during this conversation.
Speaker B:We've talked a lot about the ideal, what a family church should look like.
Speaker B:But what about the reality?
Speaker C:You mean the challenges?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And the messy parts of making this happen?
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Because let's be real, families aren't perfect.
Speaker B:There are going to be disagreements, conflicts, hurt feelings and disappointments.
Speaker B:How do we deal with all of that in a church that's trying to be like a family?
Speaker C:That's a great question.
Speaker C:And it's something that Berdeur talks about directly in his book.
Speaker C:In fact, he has a whole chapter on the importance of grace and forgiveness in a church family that makes sense.
Speaker B:If we're going to really embrace this family model, we have to accept that we're going to hurt each other sometimes, that we're going to let each other down.
Speaker C:Of course.
Speaker C:And that's where grace comes in.
Speaker C:It's about recognizing that we're all imperfect people.
Speaker C:We make mistakes and sometimes we cause pain.
Speaker B:So it's about showing the same kind of unconditional love and forgiveness that God shows to us.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:It's about creating a culture where it's safe to admit when we're wrong to ask for forgiveness and to forgive others.
Speaker B:This reminds me of something Jesus said about forgiveness.
Speaker B:He said, if your brother sins, rebuke him and if he repents, forgive him.
Speaker B:And if he sins against you seven times in the day and turns to you seven times saying, I repent, you must forgive him.
Speaker C:That's powerful, isn't it?
Speaker C:Forgiveness isn't about saying it's okay to do something wrong.
Speaker C:It's about letting go of the bitterness and resentment that can hurt us and ruin relationships.
Speaker B:It's about choosing to love.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Even when it's hard.
Speaker B:Even when we've been hurt.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And that's the kind of love that holds a family together.
Speaker C:It creates this bond that can survive anything.
Speaker B:And I think that's the kind of love a lot of us are looking for in our churches.
Speaker B:That sense of belonging, of being loved no matter what, even when we mess up, it is.
Speaker C:And it's something that we can all help create, both individually and as a community.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:So as we wrap up this part of our Deep Dive, I want to leave you with a challenge.
Speaker B:What's one thing you can do this week to help create a culture of grace and forgiveness in your church?
Speaker C:What's one way you can show that unconditional love and acceptance to someone who's struggling or to someone who has hurt you in the past?
Speaker B:These are tough questions, but they get at the heart of what it means to do church as a family.
Speaker B:We'll continue exploring this in part three of our Deep Dive, where we'll look at some practical things you can do to make Baudeur's vision a reality and to create a church that truly feels like a family.
Speaker C:Don't miss it.
Speaker B:Welcome back to the Deep Dive.
Speaker B:It's been really interesting exploring this whole idea of doing church as a family with Dr.
Speaker B:Mikkel Brodeur's insights to guide us.
Speaker B:We've talked about, you know, that desire a lot of us have to have church feel more like a family and less like an institution.
Speaker B:And I think we've discovered some pretty powerful concepts about identity, community, and spiritual parenting.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And we ended part two talking about grace and forgiveness, which is so important, you know, really the foundation of any healthy family.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:It's easy to get caught up in the ideal vision, but the real work happens when we actually have to deal with the messiness of human relationships.
Speaker B:But even with all of that, Brajer is convinced that this model of church as family is not only possible, but it's actually the best way to do what Jesus told us to do.
Speaker C:And he doesn't just leave us with this nice sounding message.
Speaker C:He actually tells us how to make it happen.
Speaker C:You know, he's not just a theologian, he's also a church planter.
Speaker C:So he's been out there putting these ideas into practice.
Speaker B:That's what makes this work so interesting, Right?
Speaker B:It's not just theory.
Speaker B:It comes from real life experience.
Speaker B:So let's talk about some of those practical steps where we even begin.
Speaker C:He says it's important to start with the right foundation.
Speaker C:Remember those five core values we talked about earlier?
Speaker C:Intimacy, integrity, intentionality, individuality, and interdependence.
Speaker C:Those aren't just buzzwords.
Speaker C:They need to be part of the church's culture.
Speaker B:Okay, how do we actually make that happen?
Speaker B:They sound kind of abstract.
Speaker C:Sometimes it starts with leadership.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Brodeur is really clear about this.
Speaker C:He says the leaders have to not only live out these values themselves, but they have to actively cultivate them in the community.
Speaker C:Think about it.
Speaker C:If the leaders aren't showing genuine intimacy, integrity, and all of those things, how can we expect everyone else to do it?
Speaker B:That makes sense.
Speaker B:It's like they say, people are watching what you do more than they're listening to what you say.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:So practically speaking, that might look like leaders being open about their own struggles, apologizing quickly when they make a mistake, really valuing different perspectives and encouraging people to work together instead of competing with each other.
Speaker B:And those are just a few examples.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:It really does affect everything from how decisions are made to how conflicts are resolved.
Speaker B:Even how we use our money.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And it's not a one time fix.
Speaker C:It's an ongoing process.
Speaker C:Brodeur encourages churches to check in regularly to see how they're doing with these values and to make changes when they need to.
Speaker B:I think that's so important because, let's be honest, even if we have the best intentions, we can get off track.
Speaker B:Life gets busy, we fall back into old habits, and before you know it, we're back to doing things the way we used to.
Speaker B:You know, the institutional way.
Speaker C:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker C:And that's why Bradair says it's important to have structures in place that support this family model.
Speaker C:I know the word structures can sound a little institutional, but think about it this way.
Speaker C:Healthy families have routines, right.
Speaker C:Dinner time, bedtime, family meetings, maybe even game night.
Speaker C:Those aren't strict rules, but they help create a framework for connection and communication and growth.
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker B:So it's about creating an environment where it's easier to have those family dynamics.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:That's where things like small groups come in, and mentoring relationships and service opportunities.
Speaker C:Brodeur says those are really important for creating a church that feels like a family.
Speaker B:Okay, let's start with small groups.
Speaker B:Why are those so important?
Speaker C:Well, in a big church, it's easy to feel lost.
Speaker C:Small groups are smaller, more intimate.
Speaker C:They give people a chance to connect with each other on a deeper level.
Speaker C:It's a place where people can really get to know you and care about you.
Speaker B:It's like having a support system.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:A group of people who are on this journey with you, people who celebrate.
Speaker B:With you when things are good and help you when things are tough.
Speaker C:And Brader says that small groups shouldn't just be about hanging out or studying the Bible.
Speaker C:They should also be about serving each other and reaching out to the community.
Speaker B:So it's about putting our faith into action.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And that's where mentoring comes in.
Speaker C:Brodeur believes that everyone, no matter how old they are or how long they've been a Christian, can benefit from having a mentor, someone who can guide them and support them.
Speaker B:It's like having a spiritual big brother or sister.
Speaker C:Yeah, someone you can talk to, ask questions, and learn from.
Speaker C:And it's not just one person helping the other.
Speaker C:Mentors often find that they learn a lot from their mentees, too.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:It shows how connected we all are.
Speaker B:We all have something to give and something to learn.
Speaker C:And that brings us to the last piece.
Speaker C:Service opportunities.
Speaker C:Remember, Brider says a healthy family is outward focused.
Speaker C:They want to make a difference in the world.
Speaker B:So it's not about creating a comfortable little bubble where we just focus on ourselves.
Speaker B:It's about sharing that love and care with everyone.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:And that might look like volunteering at a soup kitchen or visiting people in nursing homes or working with organizations that are fighting injustice or just being a good neighbor.
Speaker B:There are so many possibilities.
Speaker C:You just have to find what speaks to your heart.
Speaker B:What are you passionate about?
Speaker B:What are your gifts?
Speaker C:And Brodeur encourages churches to have different kinds of service opportunities so everyone can find a place to plug in.
Speaker B:It's amazing how it all fits together, from the core values to the practical stuff.
Speaker B:It's all about creating a church that really feels like a family.
Speaker B:A place where people feel loved, supported and empowered to live out their faith.
Speaker C:It's a beautiful vision and you know.
Speaker B:It might seem hard sometimes, but it's worth it.
Speaker B:And speaking of resources, I want to remind everyone one last time about that special offer.
Speaker B:If you want to learn more about doing church as a family, you can get a free copy of Dr.
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Speaker B:Just become a paid subscriber to Kingdom Reformation with Glenn Blakeney.
Speaker C:It's a great platform with tons of resources for anyone who wants to, well, rethink what church can be.
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Speaker B:We hope this deep dive has been helpful for you.
Speaker C:We'd love to hear your thoughts on all of this.
Speaker C:What really stood out to you?
Speaker C:Have you ever experienced church as a family?
Speaker C:We want to hear your stories.
Speaker B:And until next time, keep exploring.
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